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marred by fraud, president karzai and his rival pulls out. president obama sends 30,000 more troops to afghanistan part of the surge. 180 die as ethnic violence erupts in western china haven't troops are sent in to restore order. western leaders accuse iran of building a second nuclear plant diss despite a u.n. ban. six years after the invasion, american troops hand over power in towns and cities. welcome to this week's news review, major stories seen on bbc during the second half of 2009. in july, six years after american-led forces invaded iraq, president obama has announced thetch withdrawn from the country's towns and cities but he warped difficult days lay ahead as iraqis celebrated. a car bomb in the northern city killed 25 people. e bbc's jim muir witnessed events in baghdad. >> despite the bombs an iraqi victory parade to celebrate the last american leaving baghdad and other cities. on the streets, jubilation. across the board, everyone is glad to see the americans go, it means iraqis are back in charge. >> today we saw great pleasure mixed with deep sorrow. the pleasure of
. president karzai calls for engagement and reconciliation with the talib. >> those who are not part of al qaeda for other terrorists >> unrepentant -- president obama delivers his first state of the union address. economy and jobs are his main focus. >> we don't quit. i don't quit. let us seize this moment to start anew, to carry the dream of forward and strengthen our union once more. >> hard to believe, 15 days after haiti's earthquake, a teenage girl is pulled alive from the rubble. a former press -- french prime minister of quitted of plotting to samir nicolas sarkozy when he was running for president. -- acquitted of plotting to samir nicolas sarkozy. it is 7:00 a.m. and washington, midday in london where world leaders are hammering out a new strategy for afghanistan. opening the conference bridge prime minister gordon brown says this was a decisive time. he said the transfer of the parties to afghans of some provinces should begin later this year. president karzai called on saudi arabia to be involved in the new peace process with the taliban. with more details from the conference -
and money to peace with the taliban undermine the environment with the afghan people? homage karzai has been defending himself from the accusation. -- homage karzai. britain's prime minister answered questions from afghan and british students and defended his deployment of british troops. our world from paris -- our world affairs correspondent was there. >> president karzai arrives in london knowing he has repair work to do on his own reputation and that of his government. last ye's afghan elections were widely seen as flawed by widespread corruption. at the same time, more troops than ever were being killed or injured in the war against the taliban. was it, one student asked, worth the price being paid? >> british soldiers have been fighting in afghanistan for nine years. practically half my life. have we seen any change in the situation over there? will we get better? or will my children ask me the same question? >> i think the first thing to say is we had to take action in 2001. after the al-qaeda bombing of new york, the knowledge that al- qaeda were operating from afghanistan, the help
and money to the taliban not undermine the freedoms won by the afghan people? tommy karzai has been defending himself against accusations ahead of thursday's london conference on afghanistan. britain's prime minister gordon brown answered questions from afghan and british students and defended his deployment of british troops. our world affairs correspondent was there. >> president karzai arrives in london knowing that he has repair work to do on his reputation and that of his government. last year's afghan elections were widely seen as flawed by widespread corruption. at the same time, more western troops than ever were killed or injured in the war against the taliban. was it worth the price, one student asked? >>. is it shoulders have been fighting in afghanistan at nine years, -- british soldiers have been fighting in afghanistan nine years, practically have my life. will it get any better or will my children be asking me the same questions? >> i think the first thing to say it is we had to take action in 2001 after the bombing of new york, the knowledge that al qaeda was operati
nominees. president karzai says the president's decision was bad news, but will be respected. >> it was a long and disappointing way 400 karzai. -- disappointing for karzai. his 17 rejected included a controversial former warlord who fought against the taliban. president carter signed wanted him to continue as energy minister. -- president karzai what did him to continue. he pledged to place more women in government posts in a male- dominated society. the nominations for justice, commerce, and communication also failed. among the successful reappointment or the interior minister and defense minister, but no one has been nominated to fill the post of foreign minister. it will not be decided until a conference on afghanistan takes place this month. the president said he will make some nominations but it is uncertain who he will announce. parliament has spoken and the president said he will respect its decision. the western allies will make it clear they want to tackle corruption and threaten to withhold funding from any ministry run by a corrupt politician. >> rescue operations
of canada about the cabinet picks for hamid karzai. what is the concern over the choices that president karzai is making? guest: he has now made two set of choices. he nominated one slate of cabinet officials, about 24 of them. 17 were rejected by the parliament. but arlin is in a healthy move, asserting itself. this is a good thing -- the parliament is, in a healthy move, asserting itself. this is a good thing, checks and balances. he looked at the first slate of nominees by president karzai and parliament did not like them. they did confirm the most important cabinet choices from president karzai, the minister of defense and the minister of interior, which handles all of the police. the minister of finance, the minister of agriculture, when the biggest recipients of assistance. -- one of the biggest recipient of assistance. those picks are clear. president karzai has recently over the weekend submitted a second state to replace those that were rejected the first time. these are lesser-known people. the second slate are lesser- known people. many people have not heard -- many afghans h
. president karzai told a conference that his company -- country was moving slowly toward national security. of the next 45 minutes, british and afghan leaders and the un secretary general outline their goals. general mcchrystal has the international forces serving with such distinction in afghanistan and soon to be over 100,000 strong. foreign ministers, distinguished guests representing over 70 nations and international organizations, including every single member of the 43 nation strong international security assistance force. representing also afghanistan's key regional and muslim partners with whom we are pleased to work and his involvement in this worldwide coalition to support peace and stability in this crucial region are especially welcome to. this is a decisive time for the international cooperation that is helping the afghan people secure and govern their own country. for this conference marked the beginning of the transition process, of bring the necessary conditions under which we can begin district by district, a provident -- province by province, the transferring of responsib
karzai government who stole the election and ruled only topple. so much of afghanistan is effectively run by the taliban. in addition, we've had eight years with the u.s. has isolated between the kinetic counterterrorism strategy and a counterinsurgency strategy that tries to protect people. and we have seen the last oscillation of that. this happened during the bush administration, and now it's happening again in the obama administration that we are moving back to a counterinsurgency strategy. now besides afghanistan being a much harder, not to crack that iraq we now have a lot of domestic factors affecting the u.s. policy. the american public is war weary after two wars stretched out over many years. and i think it's politically perilous for any politician in a democracy to escalate a war that is already unpopular, even lbj didn't do that when he escalated the vietnam war. u.s. spending in afghanistan is more per year than any other military spends on the planet. so we're dumping a lot of resources into afghanistan. the afghan war is expected to cost another trillion dollars over the ne
the environment wi the afghaneople? homage kzai has been defending himself from the accusation. -- homage karzai. britain's prime minister swered questions from afghan d british studts and defended his deoyment of british troops. our world om paris our wod affairs correspondent was there. >>president karzai arrives londonnowing he has repair ork to do on hiswn reputation and that of his vernment. last year's afghan elections were widelyseen as flawed by widespread corruption. at the same time, mo troops than ever were being killeor injured in the war against the taliban. was it, one studt asked, worth e price being paid? british soiers have been fighting in afghanistan for nine years. practically ha my life. ha we en any cnge in the situation over ere? will we get better? or will my children ask me the same question? >> i tnk the first thing to say i we had to takection in 2001. after the al-qaeda bombing of new york, the knowledge tt al- qaeda were opering from afghanistan, the hp that was given them by the taliban govement. the question is how can we keep our streets safe and how good the res
in the afghan parliament was a stinging rebuke to president hamid karzai, rejecting 17 of his 24 cabinet nominees. the prize move caused new disarray. two months after karzai was declared winner of a presidential election plagued by fraud. today karzai ordered parliament to cancel its winter break so it vote on a new list of nominees that he's now preparing. he's under pressure to show progress in governing by january 28 when an international conference on the afghan mission convenes in london. among the rejected nominees was influential word lord khan and the only woman karzai had named. lawmakers criticized many on the list as unqualified political cronies. several holdovers in vital posts were approved. among them the defense minister and the minister of interior. along with the ministers of finance, education, and agriculture. i spoke to afghan ambassador today and asked him how big a setback this was to karzai. >> it may be a temporary setback for the president but it's a step forward for the democracy in afghanistan. it's really happy for the parliament of afghanistan to do their j
with karzai. this is an opportunity for us to make sure that more draconian steps are taken and said if they steps that have yielded little results. >> i could not agree with you more. i cannot disagree with you at all. this is a moment and it will take a tough hand. >> i noticed the vote has not gone off. and to set fashion, which are drifting along here. -- in truth senate fashion, we are drifting along here. >> i'd prefer to look at this as an opportunity to finish my questions. i.t. why for being here and for your insights. -- thank you for your being here a year and says. my first question before i ask more about the long term, if each of you are satisfied that everything is currently being done that can be done with the short-term relief efforts, dr. former, you talk about how slow the relief efforts are and to a great extent that is because of the lack of infrastructure. is there more than should be done right now to address those relief efforts? >> thank you. i think there is a mismatch between the degree of interest and resources that we as a nation are putting in and the ab
karzai and his leadership to address this. >> what's your sense of that? have you seen any change in president's karzai steps? >> he's looking to ministers. he and i actually talked about this. his strategic intent is there. what struck me in meeting with these elders was the evolution of this corruption. so, it wasn't something that was always there. it's been over the last decade or so that they spoke to it. these same elders said to me that they were embarrassed that the united states soldier, sailors, airmen, marines were dying for them. they want to lead this effort. they appreciate what we've done, but they really want to lead this effort and this is something i know the president, president karzai is trying to engender in his leadership with his people. >> but what you talk about the leadership issue. you talked in the past about interviews about the critical need of good, local leadership. president karzai, by many accounts, is not moving forward in his second term. you know, his appointments to the cabinet were largely rejected by parliament and many on grounds that these
others have spoken to the need for president karzai and his leadership to address this. >> what's your sense of that? have you seen any change in president karzai's footsteps? >> initially -- he was -- looking to ministers and he and i actually talked about this in his strategic intent is there. what struck me in meeting with these elders was the evolution of this corruption. so it wasn't something that was always there. it has been over the last decade or so that they spoke to it. these same elders said to me that they were embarrassed, that the united states soldiers, sailors, airmen, marines were dieing and they want to lead this effort. they appreciate what we have done but they really want to lead this effort and this is something i know the president, president karzai, is trying to engender in his leadership with his people. >> you talk about the leadership issue and talked in the past and in interviews about the critical need of good local leadership. president karzai, by many accounts, is not moving forward in his second term. the -- his appointments to the cabinet were largely
to have -- that's part of the equation, and we have to have the karzai government show us that we -- it is going to truly reform. >> let's start with the karzai government, senator mccain. while you are there, president karzai is trying another time to get his cabinet approved. if he does not have faith that these people are not corrupt, if we can't get to that simple first step, how can we build institutions or repair roads and put them to work and educate them in afghanistan and build the confidence that trust the central government and not the taliban? >> they have a long way to go in the area of corruption. but the fact the parliament rejected his nominees, i think you can see a democratic process moving forward. president karzai recognizes what he just has been through was an important lesson to him. we have to keep pressing on the corruption issue. let me tell you two other things that concern me. first of all, i think we have the right strategy and the right resources and the right leadership. we went outside kandahar to an operating base where americans and afghan soldiers
this week. move in return for this additional commitment, we must agree with president karzai's plan for the expansion of the afghan army and police. we will agree today that the afghan national army will # 134,000 by october 2010. and more by 2011. we will commit to supporting a police report with afghan national police numbers preeti 9000 by october of this year. this is a present bigger than our coalition forces. we need more international trainers to do this. we are doubling the number of military teams for the afghan police starting in april of this afghan security forces will be 300,000. international forces will rise to 135,000. the balance will continue to ship toward afghan security control. as president obama made clear last month, by the middle of next year, we have to turn the tide in the fight against the insurgency and also in our work to support the afghan government. today we affirm that the increase in our military efforts must be matched with governance in economic development, a surge to match and complement the current military surge. we have agreed today to back
backed president karzai's peace plan, including the fund to pay taliban fighters to give up their weapons and be reintegrated into society. >> with the personal chemistry still clearly working, hillary clinton and david miliband speak to a conference that was intended to breathe new life into sorting out afghanistan. 70 plus representatives squzed into their seats. americans took a back seat. it was gordon brown who set out the objective. >> by the middle of next year we have to turn the tide in the fight against the insurgency and also in our work to support the afghan government in winning the trust of the people. >> how to do it, well, one important part of the strategy is to try to divide the taliban by offering them cash and jobs to leave. plenty of volunteers are just there because the taliban usually pay them well. >> reintegration is what afghan needs. we must reach out to all of our countrymen, especially our disenchanted follows. >> what he means is it using the 86 million pounds now on the table to pay the taliban not to fight western or afghan soldiers. how will the public her
as ordinary citizens. >> it was arranged that president karzai should think the british army. he expressed his sympathy for the wives and mothers of those who have been killed. >> we understand their suffering and pain. there are millions of mothers in afghanistan who feel exactly the same way. >> it is hard to avoid the feeling this conference has been about british-american public opinion just as much as it has been about the afghans themselves. a definite effort to persuade us all that this is not an open- ended war that will stretch on into the indefinite future, swallowing a money and live -- up money and lives. president karzai has been made acceptable again. we have been promised that our part in the war will begin to wind down in 18 months time. it has been a remarkable performance by the diplomats and politicians. >> well picking up where john left, six months ago, british forces launched a major operation to secure parts of helmand province against the taliban. hundreds of soldiers took part in operation panter'-- panther's claw. they have been back to the same part of helmand provin
president karzai says japan and other countries will put up the cash to lure them back. he's got to come up with something. when you speak to ordinary people here, they think he's too much under the thumb of the british and the warlords and so on. there's huge re-election -- his re-election is greatly questioned. is he weak president? >> partly true. partly not true. as far as the means of power are concerned, yes. my presidency is week. as to the means of power. which means money and equipment which means manpower, which means capacity. but where legitimacy is concerned for the past eight years afghanistan has had perhaps the most legitimate of governments ever seen. >> the british and americans have had their doubts about that, which has annoyed him greatly. now the americans and the british and the rest need him to succeed. because they want to get out of here as soon as possible. if president karzai could win over big sections of the 258 taliban, it won't just help them, it'll help them too. bbc news kabul. >> stay with us, if you can. still to come, we're in the most dangerous world i
karzai is under pressure to crack down on corruption and taliban insurgents. parliamentary elections have been delayed because of a lack of funding. it is against this backdrop that the london conference on the future of afghanistan begins wednesday. you have been talking to general stanley mcchrystal about the role his troops will play in the months and years to come. >> what is your function? are you here to defeat the taliban? are you here to shore up the government in kabul? are you here as part of a long- term military presence? are you care to make sure that american troops and foreign troops can get out next year? >> we're here to give time and space for the afghan people to build a nation. we will not build a nation for them, nor can we secure the nation for them. it must be done by afghans. as international partners, we givehem an opportunity to do that. in doing that, we also meet our own requirements. we prevent the return of transnational terrorists like al-qaeda, and the return of a repressive regime, which is pretty unacceptable to anyone. >> who are you fighting? i have bee
to have the karzai government show us that we, that it is going to truly reform. >> well, let's start with the karzai government. senator mccain, while you were there, president karzai is trying another time to get his cabinet approved. if he cannot even get a cabinet approved and he does not have the faith of other people in their government that they're not corrupt. if we can't get to that simple first step, how can we build institutions and how can we repair roads and put people to work and educate them in afghanistan and build the confidence of the afghan people that trust your central government, not the taliban? >> well, they have a long way to go in the area of corruption, but the fact that the parliament rejected his nominees, i think you can look at a democratic process moving forward. i believe that president karzai recognizes that what he's just been through was an important lesson to him. we have to keep pressing on the corruption issue. but let me tell you two other things that concern me, first of all, i think we have the right strategy and the right resources and the ri
problem, and we have to have -- that's part of the equation, and we have to have the karzai government show us that we -- it is going to truly reform. >> let's start with the karzai government, senator mccain. while you are there, president karzai is trying another time to get his cabinet approved. if he cannot even get a cabinet approved, he does not have the faith of other people in his government that these people aren't corrupt, they know how to do the basics of good governance. if we can't get to that simple first step, how want we build institutions and build roads, put people to work and build confidence in the afghan people, trust your central government, not the taliban? >> they have a long way to go in the area of corruption. but the fact the parliament rejected his nominees, i think you could look at a democratic process moving forward. i believe president karzai recognizes that what he's just been through was an important lesson to him. we have to keep pressing on the corruption issue. let me tell you two other things that concern me. first of all, i think we have the right
hamid karzai told the conference that is country is moving slowly toward national security but that training security forces could take years. at an opening session this morning, the british and that an leaders and the un secretary general outlined their goals for the conference. . . >> in the last year britain has suffered hundreds of fatalities per he to the countries represented today recognizes that this mission is vital for our national security. it is vital to the stability of this crucial region and it is vital to the security of our world. we set out last autumn on strategies and we're making progress. the military search is turning to the tide against the taliban- led insurgency. it is at the same time building the capacity of the afghan forces who are fighting alongside us. a civilian surge is insuring that areas are cleared of the taliban and our stabilization teams go in to work with local to halt ground that has been a superdelegate. britain is proud that we lead the largest civilian reconstruction team in afghanistan. during 2009, we doubled the number of brit
. the fighting raged citywide for nearly five hours. today's grizzly attacks came just as afghan president karzai was swearing in members of his new cabinet. ambassador richard holbrook, u.s. special envoy to the region who just left kabul hours earlier told reporters in india that he wasn't surprised. >> they're ruthless. the people who are doing this certainly will not survive the attack nor will they succeed. but we can expect this sort of thing on a regular basis. >> warner: the taliban claims responsibility for today's attacks telling the associated press they had sent 20 militants to do the job. it was the militants' answer to karzai's recently renewed offer of reconciliation with the taliban said the u.s. institute of peace. >> the taliban spokesperson said today in claiming responsibility for the attack that they were trying to undermine or disrupt the notion that the taliban could be bought off, that they could be lured off the battlefield and instead to demonstrate that they are united and they are committed to their cause. they sent these suicide bomber into the heart of kabul. >> warn
government as well. guest: years ago when he met with hamid karzai at a dinner, someone said to him, mr. president, how are you going to address this problem of corruption? in fact, he said, what problem? joe biden, famously -- dinner was over -- he threw his napkin down and said, this dinner is over, and walked out. nothing has happened to defrost his relations with president karzai. both biden and richard holbrooke have terrible relations with karzai. host: james traub is with us to talk about the influence of joe biden. republicans, 202-737-0001. democrats, 202-737-0002. independents, 202-628-0205. you can send us an e-mail or tweet us at. next phone call. caller: i think our president is doing very well. if we wanted joe biden as president, he would be president. i like the idea that our president is intelligent. he is not a puppet, like the last eight years. i think he is doing what he is supposed to be doing. host: james traub? guest: i guess i would agree, in general. he believes he could be a good president. i believe this is almost a desirable alternative. he is a very knowledg
there be a second runoff. thereby, and taking the initial count down under 50% and having president karzai except that, which was a good step for afghanistan. the runoff never happened, but at least the ecc was able to maintain its independence and show that the rule of law does matter to some degree in afghanistan. with that, let me briefly introduced are three distinguished speakers and turn it over to them to speak just for a few minutes, no more than 10 minutes each. to my far left is scott worden. he has just returned to the institute here. he was on a leave of absence last year to work as one of the three international members of the electoral complaints commission. scott was also involved in the elections in 2005, the parliament. you have their bios in their -- in front of you. isabel is sitting next to scott wright -- scott's right. she has worked in afghanistan at back in 2005 as a political adviser and knows quite a lot -- knows quite a lot about the afghanistan elections. to my left is a grant kippen. he was the chairman of the ecc both in 2005 and this past year in 2009. but scott and
-nation conference on the future of afghanistan. afghan president hamid karzai said he expects foreign forces to be in his country for up to 15 years. there was also talk of a new plan to win over the taliban by allowing them into the afghanistan government. the executive of foreign editor of the london telegraph, also a terrorism expert. it is kind of like talking about both sides of your mouth. we say that this is one of the most brutal regimes on the planet and yet that they want to allow them into the afghanistan government. what do you make of that? >> reporter: well, this is a very ambitious program. the heart of the matter here is that there is a core of the taliban, the original founders who are never going to give in to the west and are always going to be an enemy. in recent years because of the we the afghan press has been handled the strength of the taliban has ground. there are a lot of people who would not normally support the taliban have been drawn in. the plan is to try and persuade them to come back into the mainstream of afghan politics by paying to lay down their guns. trac
on attacks in the capital of kabul. >> we're hearing at this moment th afghan president karzai said security has been restored to kabul but this comes after a deadly attack and fierce gun battles and potential for more attacks today. five people including a child were killed. nearly 40 people wounded in these attacks. taliban gunmen some wearing suicide vests launched coordinated assault on the presidential palace and ministry buildings. militants were holed up inside a burning shopping center that was quickly surrounded by security forces but first responders, emergency workers and police came under heavy fire from taliban sharpshooters. another suicide bomber driving an ambulance set off a huge blast. president karzai said in a statement that the enemies of afghanistan are trying to spread father among kabul citizens. he ordered security officials to do their best to make arrests right away. nbc news is reporting that western intelligence officials say there could be a good number of taliban suicide bombers still on there's in the capital today. eun, back to you. >>> now to the latest out
't have to continue. khzaei -- karzai was a great hope. everyone no knows him respected him. he might change his mind. the pressures that led him to permit and maybe support this corrupt structure could be reversed over time. the people up and down that structure might change their mind. the parliament is -- has stood up against his nominations. who's knows who's going to happen up and down that road. if we succeed in something that we can do, peter has pointed out the crucial important to the kandahar road. than doesn't be impossible to secure that. that changes the economic nature of southern afghanistan. it could get better. >> if i could just add one point. there's no question that the ghost of vietnam haunts this administration. i can tell you from being in it for 60 days. the ghost of what happened to lyndon johnson walks the corridors of this white house, it walks the corridors of this building every day. it's a mistake. we got to get over it. we got to stop fighting the vietnam war. i don't know whether we could have won or not, but it is not relevant to afghanistan. as marc p
capital. president karzai says order has been restored to the streets after teams of militants attacked government buildings. at least five people were killed. the attacks came at the same time that karzai was swearing in new members of his cabinet. >>> and president bill clinton heads to haiti. with more reports of scattered violence and looting, new troops on the way. an american health organization now estimates as many as 100,000 people were killed. >>> "the new york times" is reportedly set to begin charging readers for access to its website. the newspaper is expected to announce in the coming weeks a metered pay plan, where viewers will have access to a number of free articles before being asked to subscribe. >> they got to do it. >> they got to do it, i understand this. >> if you do great work, don't give your writing away, don't give your features away, don't give journalism away. >> i hope it works. 77% would not be willing to pay to read content online. we shall see. let's go to willie to sports. >> i have to show you the back cover of "the new york post." rex ryan. the jets i
. karzai -- having legitimacy, and i do not think we have that. this will depend on achieving security, which i think is achievable, and with good government comes with our own money invested in jobs. without jobs, afghanistan will not be a positive scenario in the future, but i must conclude by pointing out that this is not going to affect our domestic national security, as we see with the last three plots. the underwear bomber came from nine cheerio region with -- came from nigeria. one of them came from somalia, and major hassan came from washington, d.c. thank you very much. [applause] >> peter has to leave at 11:00, so he should take the first few questions, and there is a microphone in the back of the room for anyone who would like to ask a question. >> i work 30 years of the journalists. i retired two years ago. my question is for peter. what i hear now is exactly what i was hearing before the iraq war, and the promise was saddam hussein was on popular. then we will have a democracy. now it is an islamic system. there is a hypothesis that afghan people love us. the last point i
about the cabinet picks, the selections of hamid karzai. cabinet crisis reveals karzai's weakening grasp. lawmakers unhappy with the president's pick. what is the concern over the choices? >> guest: president karzai has made two sets of choices. he nominated once slate of cabinet officials about 24 of them. seventeen were rejected by the parliament. the parliament in a healthy move is asserting itself. this is a good thing. have some balancing, checks and balances as we understand them. so the parliament looked at the first slate of nominees from karzai and did not like many of them. rejected them. the parliament did choose, did agree, and did confirm several of the most important cabinet choices from president karzai, minister of defence and minister of interior which handles all the police, minister of finance, minister of agriculture. one of the big recipients of assistance. so the cabinet in this area somewhat. president karzai has recently submitted a second slate to replace those that were rejected the first time. these are lesser-known people. the second slate of lesser-known peop
've just actually just straight from a meeting with president karzai of afghanistan who here in london for this conference. and i think it's important that the government of afghanistan does more to demonstrate that it's toughing out corruption. that it's embarking on property government and proper reform. but i think we should be clear, you know, we're not in afghanistan. to back up one particular government or one particular individual. and i don't think we're in afghanistan, frankly, to produce the perfect jeffersonian democracy. we're there because we do nt want ala and the taliban to have control of that country again. and we should have a pretty hard-headed view that what we are in this for is some basic level of stability and security so that country doesn't threaten our own security back at home any more. >> do you believe -- >> and in that case we did:bring our troops home. >> rose: do you believe that can be achieved in the next two years because the president said et cetera's going to begin to think about bringing american troops back after 18 months. >> my view is, obviousl
and come over to the government's side. hamid karzai is willing to reconcile is taliban leaders with you the offer is not for anyone in al qaeda. leaders have been pushing for a program to entice militants. they must recognize afghanistan's constitution. >> the taliban are welcome to return to to their own country and work for peace in order for us to be able then to have the u.s. and other forces have the freedom to go back home. >> shannon: nato will conduct an investigation into a strike on a outpost. it was called for yesterday after soldiers fired on u.s. and afghanistan commandos. the afghan soldiers thought the unit was taliban militants and call it an unfortunate incidents. >> world leaders of the international conference on afghanistan agreed to a timetable obscurity duties but other issues remain unresolved. joining us, michael owe o'han lynn. >>> so this idea of reconciling with some of the taliban or inviting them to join the government in what it's trying to do, is it a good idea? >> it's early. we haven't established momentum on the battlefield. once we do, an offer can be
stated to be beginning about 18 months after to give karzai and his regime enough time to stand up and fight for itself. we will see. host: we have our numbers on the screen and we will get to the calls in immelman. -- in a moment. you laid out a number of issues which have to be practical issues that have to be dealt with, but the fact of the matter is that you bring vietnam and it becomes a political issue as well. tell us how you view this as a political issue. guest: the lesson that we need to learn, i think, from john kennedy's experience is this. he was with -- he was withdrawing at the time. we have the classified documents. but he did not tell the truth to the american people why? for political reasons. he wanted to get it reelected in 1964. he had begun to order the withdrawal in 1963. host: and these would have been the trainer said you talked about. guest: 16,000 of visors, not combat troops. but my point is that obama should not repeat that experience. he is clearly going to do the best that we can in a given amount of time, but what we face the prospect -- if we face t
. lot of our senior team in the country. spend 90 minutes with president karzai and most importantly we got out to a agaabad valley and met with the team on the ground there. i told the president in february and i kept my word to him, that if he would give our soldiers the resources they needed to get the job done and come home safe he'd have our support. i expressed the night of the president's west point address concern about the timetable of withdrawal. july of 2011 beginning withdrawal. i don't think it makes sense on a battlefield to tell the enemy when you're going to stop fighting. [applause]. so - i'm - i was pleaseed the president called for reinforcements but i wanted to ask tough questions. what i can report to you as general mcchrystal actually answers to people like me but i answer to people like you so i'll report to you, that i'm told that they have the resources and personnel in the decision that the president has made to get the job done. um... - if they have the time to do it. that's issue. i talked to the afghan leaders and rank and file military afghan militants in t
karzai and with his cabinet on numerous occasions, notably with the trip that hillary clinton and i had made to afghanistan on october 18 and 19 in conjunction with the inauguration. the afghans understood this, they are very comfortable with it. so i need to underscore that's what july 2011 means. not a withdraw, but the start of a responsibility transition in which american combat troops will begin to draw down. on the second question and in regard to pakistan, i'm not sure quite how you phrase it. strobe, you made a generic comment? >> mike hamlin and his colleagues have put together a set of bench marks on sort of how things are going. and the trend that they feel they have identified in pakistan is ominous, negative by comparison with a year ago. >> yeah. i read mike's monthly, it's quarterly, actually, isn't it? i read mike's quarterly table with great interest. and it@@@@@@p it's a common problem i've seen in every war i've been involved in. let's not confuse the number of cell phones with low the war is going. let's not minimize that cell phone penetration is a hugely important
ability for governments. this was discussed at length to present karzai, and with his cabinet on numerous occasions, notably in putting the trip that hillary clinton and i made an afghanistan in october 18 and 19th in conjunction with president karzai's inauguration. the afghans understood this. they are very comfortable with it. . . to underscore that's what july 2011 means. not a withdraw, but the start of a responsibility transition in which american combat troops will begin to draw down. on the second question and in regard to pakistan, i'm not sure quite how you phrase it. strobe, you made a generic comment? >> mike hamlin and his colleagues have put together a set of bench marks on sort of how things are going. and the trend that they feel they have identified in pakistan is ominous, negative by comparison with a year ago. >> yeah. i read mike's monthly, it's quarterly, actually, isn't it? i read mike's quarterly table with great interest. and it helped -- influenced me a lot as we tried to develop our own benchmarks. but i think we have to be very careful about two things. maybe th
as the prime minister of pakistan and are meeting with president karzai. it was an interesting juxtaposition as we looked to the military component what is happening on the government's side in both pakistan and afghanistan. when it comes to the governance issue in afghanistan, in our meeting with president karzai, he stressed very much the significance of the upcoming parliamentary elections. the need to ensure that under the afghan constitution, that process moves forward to clearly define or establish the legitimacy of the afghan government and their processes as they move ahead. we also had an opportunity to visit the police training centers there in kabul. very important to understand the progress that is being made at the afghan army is being trained. they truly are operating at a deficit in terms of the numbers and bringing more recruits in, but what they have seen in the past several months has been remarkable in terms of the numbers of recruits that have come in. we met with the minister of defense, who indicated that just in the past month, the number of recruits that they have rec
to the afghan government and to america today. just as president karzai was swearing in new cabinet members, suicide bombers attacked downtown kabul. at least five people died, dozens were wounded. cnn's dan rivers was there. >> reporter: a pitched battle in the center of kabul, afghan forces fought for more than three hours with taliban insurgents holed up in several buildings. we've been listening to sustained gunfire coming from down the road. you can see in the distance there is a building on fire which we believe may be a market and we're being told that there are a number of taliban fighters who are attacking near the serena hotel right in the heart of kabul and a lot of gunfire and explosions going on. people in the center of kabul were running for their lives. women and children terriified and confused. some angry they hadn't seen any isaf troops. >> you can see all these afghan soldiers. there no one from foreign troops. counter insurgency, there's insurgents and there's the place that they should cooperate shoulder to shoulder with us. with the government of afghanistan. >> report
, thereby taking the initial i.e.c. count to 54.-- 54 point something percent and having president karzai accept that, which i think was a good step for afghanistan. of course the runoff never happened but at least the e.c.c. was able to maintain its independence and show that the rule of law does matter to some degree in afghanistan. so with that, let me briefly introduce our three distinguished speakers and turn it over to them to speak just for a few minutes, probably no more than 10 minutes each if you can keep it to that, so we can have a frank and vibrant discussion and q&a session after that. to my far left, scott warden who just returned to the institute here. he's a senior rule advisor with usit, who was on a leave of absence to work as one of the three international members of the electoral complaints commission. he was also involved in the elections in 2005 for parliament when he was with the jdmb. you have their buy yows in front of you, i won't go into too much detail on that. isabel root is desk officer for the e.a.d. at the department of political affairs at the united nati
hope you are speaking for yourself. >> you have done a great job with karzai. this is an opportunity for us to make sure that more draconian steps are taken and said if they steps that have yielded little results. >> i could not agree with you more. i cannot disagree with you at all. this is a moment and it will take a tough hand. >> i noticed the vote has not gone off. and to set fashion, which are drifting along here. -- in truth senate fashion, we are drifting along here. >> i'd prefer to look at this as an opportunity to finish my questions. i.t. why for being here and for your insights. -- thank you for your being here a year and says. my first question before i ask more about the long term, if each of you are satisfied that everything is currently being done that can be done with the short-term relief efforts, dr. former, you talk about how slow the relief efforts are and to a great extent that is because of the lack of infrastructure. is there more than should be done right now to address those relief efforts? >> thank you. i think there is a mismatch between the degree of int
the delegation. we rallied the world behind the administration's new strategy. since then, karzai has been re-elected, a messy election, but it's done. president obama's announced the 30,000 troops you just referred to. and it's a very good time to bring the world back together to reaffirm its support and to move to the next stage, because we're now -- 2010 is going to be a year of heavy implementation. >> is about getting money from these -- >> no, this is not a pledging conference. enough of those for the time being. countries are coming through, the japanese have just quadrupled their aid. we're going to increase our assistance in many ways, but this is about policy. >> now, let's go to afghanistan's attempts to try to get the taliban, at least not the leaders of the taliban, but sort of the rank and file of the taliban reintegrated in some form in the government. is this possible -- we see that every attempt, it feels like one step forward, three steps back at this point. >> let's not confuse two things. reintegration and reconciliation. i know these are complicated words, but reconciliat
attackers were killed. it started as 14 members of hamid karzai's cabinet were about to be sworn in. >>> and the man who shot pope john paul ii was released this morning, taken to a military facility. he served 19 years in an italian prison for a 1981 attack. he was extradited to turkey where he served ten years. >>> they lived through tuesday's earthquake. now hungry, thirsty and desperate, the people of haiti are doing whatever they can to survive. >> for tens of thousands of people, that means crowding into tents and tarps. soledad o'brien takes us inside one of these tent cities. >> reporter: there was enough water in one of the makeshift camps to give some of the children a shower. there was a little food. a makeshift clinic. they even picked up the garbage. but many of the tens of thousands of haitians displaced by the earthquake have no house to go back to, and no new place to go. they live beneath recovered sheets and blankets in the grass and concrete. these hot and dirty encampments that have sprung up in parks and plazas are now their homes. >> the people of haiti need th
opinion on. it is something that president karzai has announced, a rather ambitious agenda for himself and his country. when there is an alleged oral process, not very much else -- when there is an electoral process, the afghan government is going to have a way that. having elections in may will probably be very technically challenging. that is the decision they ahve to ma -- have to make. they have the right to postpone the election for security reasons. if this is the right they choose to exercise, we could have a number of reforms that could be put in place. the government is going to have to weigh the costs in terms of the focus of the country and how much reform can be done. >> maybe just to add to that, i think one of the problems that you mentioned earlier is the process of decision making. whether the elections are in may, september, they are delayed one year, when you make a decision, you can get about governance in the interim without as much disruption. unfortunately, what tends to happen, you get this offer and counteroffer going back and forth. you can't actually realize t
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